• CJOtheReal@ani.social
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    3 months ago

    Being pro-lsrael is fine,

    Good.

    as is being anti-Israel. Obviously.

    You seem to get where the problem is. BBC is known for shitty journalism when its against Israel and you seem to accept all the people wanting to eradicate Israel in the comments…

    Drive-by attempts to irritate and inflame are unwelcome.

    Nobody on this community is doing anything else, if you don’t want people to talk about the BBCs antisemitism problem you might just need to shut down your instance/community, its literally just spam otherwise.

    Here is a article from the way more credible telegraph about it https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/19/bbcs-credibility-jewish-community-reached-breaking-point/

    Here is another one https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/01/bbc-chairman-dismisses-staff-complaints-anti-semitism/

    Here is more

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/21/bbcs-deep-rooted-prejudice-fuelling-poison-of-anti-semitism/

    Here more

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/07/bbc-breached-guidelines-more-1500-times-israel-hamas-war/

    And Here is one from BEFORE the war on terrorism had to be started again

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/06/bbc-has-questions-answer-anti-semitism/

    I hope you see your wrongs

    The articles headline had to be corrected as no actual news outlet would write such a thing. The war was started by Hamas and Hizbullah, Israel is in a DEFENSIVE war against militant terrorists with the official goal of wiping out all jews on earth, that execute people in the streets, terrorize the population in the country they are in and actively endanger them on purpose. And BBC has become their western accepted mouth, that does exactly what is written in the telegraph articles. BBC has a very clear antisemitism problem and you seem to like that.

    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catM
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      3 months ago

      This comment is fine. You’re expressing your opinion, which you’re welcome to do, and backing it up with sources.

      I think this conversation would be better placed in !israel_palestine_pol@lemmy.world than in a news community. You surely realize yours is a minority view, so you’ll have to expect some kind of disagreement about it. Which is fine. Doing that same thing in a content-free way as YourPrivatHater did, so that the disagreement that ensues is guaranteed to be unproductive, is not fine.

      Does that seem sensible? I can’t tell. To me it’s common sense and good behavior on the internet, but maybe I need to write it down as official site rules so I can be “objective” in the application of it. Let me know what you think.

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        3 months ago

        This comment is fine. You’re expressing your opinion, which you’re welcome to do, and backing it up with sources.

        If you want such discussion then a repost bot is not exactly the way to go for.

        I think this conversation would be better placed in !israel_palestine_pol@lemmy.world than in a news community.

        No its not, this is about the BBC itself rather than the topic.

        You surely realize yours is a minority view, so you’ll have to expect some kind of disagreement about it. Which is fine.

        On lemmy? Yeah about 90% of the people here are brainlessly reproducing the propaganda of terrorists and Iran.

        In reality? No.

        Doing that same thing in a content-free way as YourPrivatHater did, so that the disagreement that ensues is guaranteed to be unproductive, is not fine.

        I if you look at his profile he seems to be very active, even here where he is basically talking to the void… Nobody here is having a actual discussion about anything, its either short statements to something or saying that the journalism of BBC is very faulty.

        Does that seem sensible? I can’t tell. To me it’s common sense and good behavior on the internet, but maybe I need to write it down as official site rules so I can be “objective” in the application of it. Let me know what you think.

        You can also just turn the ability to comment off, nobody here is doing different from the guy you banned. And i see his comment as critical of the BBC not what you call it.

        BTW, nobody from a remote instance is reading the site rules of another insurance. Even reading the sidebar of a community is not happening often.

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catM
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          3 months ago

          If you want such discussion then a repost bot is not exactly the way to go for.

          I don’t want such discussion. You’re welcome to try to start one here, but as you pointed out, it’s not exactly the place for it.

          If you have no interest in a discussion, but just want to blast your opinion, then you’ve done so. Mission accomplished.

          On lemmy? Yeah about 90% of the people here are brainlessly reproducing the propaganda of terrorists and Iran.

          In reality? No.

          https://news.gallup.com/poll/646955/disapproval-israeli-action-gaza-eases-slightly.aspx

          The majority doesn’t determine what opinion is right, of course. You’re free to your opinion whether 42% of people agree with you, or 10%, or 1%.

          Coming at it from a standpoint of arguing your case is fine. Coming at it from a standpoint of blasting that your opinion is the right one, and the people with the other opinion are terrible, and insulting anyone who tries to disagree with you? That will get a ban, because it’s a huge waste of time and pollutes the space for people who want to use it for other things.

          I may need to make some site rules about this. I thought it could be done on a common-sense basis, but I guess that was naive.

          I if you look at his profile he seems to be very active

          He’s been drawing some heat from moderators. I had him categorized as a troll account so I didn’t hesitate when he came in with something inflammatory. I just looked over his profile, and you’re right. He’s posting pretty actively and almost all of it is pretty benign. He might just have a blinkered type of view where he is right, and anyone who disagrees is wrong, and the way to approach that situation is to berate any user or any journalistic outlet that doesn’t follow his view exactly. That’s not exactly productive behavior, but it’s also not trolling, it’s just human malfunction of a pretty common type.

          Maybe I was hasty. I made this:

          https://lemmy.world/post/20356525

          If he wants to come into that discussion and objectively defend his point of view, then I’ll unban him. I’m not trying to silence unpopular points of view. If he has no interest in this discussion except in terms of tossing his angry opinion in and then fleeing, then the ban will remain. You can let him know, since I don’t know if sending him a message will work now that he’s banned.